Before And After Part 3
It seems that there are more and more people in the public eye who are starting to wear the hijab.
Algerian Journalist Khadija Ben Ganna

Egyptian Actress Mona Abdel Ghani

Former Egyptian Actress Shams El Baroudi

Egyptian Actress Sabrine

Egyptian Actress Soheir El Babli

Egyptian Actress Abeer Sabry

Egyptian Actress Hala Shiba

Camilla

Victorians

Kings Of Pop

Barbie

Even Those Girls In The Window

Taliban Girls

Even at the bathroom???

And the gym?

Oh no, not my cat too!!!
Algerian Journalist Khadija Ben Ganna

Egyptian Actress Mona Abdel Ghani

Former Egyptian Actress Shams El Baroudi

Egyptian Actress Sabrine

Egyptian Actress Soheir El Babli

Egyptian Actress Abeer Sabry

Egyptian Actress Hala Shiba

Camilla

Victorians

Kings Of Pop

Barbie

Even Those Girls In The Window

Taliban Girls

Even at the bathroom???

And the gym?

Oh no, not my cat too!!!



84 Comments:
At 2:02 PM,
Tarek said…
Well, if you look closely at these women's profiles, you'll find that they are all educated. Eventough I would not wear the hijab if I were a woman, whether we like it or not, it is their decision to wear a scarf and their decision deserves respect. In more blunt terms, what they wear is nobody's business.
But I find it highly disgraceful to associate these women's (and any woman's) pictures with satiric depictions of Barbie, Michael Jackson, a cat, and a loo entrance. After all, did they harm anyone by wearing a scarf?
I wonder why the British have no issue with the scarf and the sikh turban!!
At 2:35 PM,
Steven said…
LoL. Your cat tooo!
I thought this was serious to start with.. I had a little doubt with MJ and then... I saw Barbie!
I suppose the victorians were a little suspicious too. ;)
At 2:45 PM,
Anonymous said…
Tarek said..." Well, if you look closely at these women's profiles , you'll find that they are all educated."
So what? Are non-educated women less than them?
At 2:49 PM,
Anonymous said…
Oh...and by the way, I just looked at them "closely" and NO they're not all educated.
At 2:53 PM,
Chris in MB said…
The soccer hijab looks cute. Much better than that cheesey football stripper outfit!
Is that a hijab in your thumb nail?
It looks very nice.
At 3:00 PM,
Tarek said…
Hello anonymous:
I do not see the point in your comment. I said that they were educated because that means they have made perfectly informed decisions, rather than emotional ones.
I maintain that they are educated. Khadija Ben Ganna is a highly skilled journalist, and the others are former or present actresses. They have been to school. You don't need to be a Harvard MBA to be referred to as an educated individual.
Any chance we hear better arguments, anonymous?
At 3:06 PM,
Anonymous said…
lol...Oh so the non educated ones can't make perfectly informed decisions because they are too emotional?
At 3:22 PM,
Tarek said…
False. The "non-educated ones can't make perfectly informed decisions" because they are driven by the only desire to conform to cultural norms.
Besides, I find it sad that in 2006 we still judge people according to what they wear. It's a sign of high intolerence.
Question: Is the Indian Sari "okay" or shall we laugh at it as well? Is the Japanese Kimono okay for you guys??? Shall we tell the sikhs to take their turbans off and wear baseball caps instead??
At 3:31 PM,
GC said…
You forgot about Camilla.
Check her out:
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7374/334/1600/charles25_.jpg
At 3:31 PM,
Anonymous said…
"Besides, I find it sad that in 2006 we still judge people according to what they wear. It's a sign of high intolerence."
Can we judge the person if they are wearing a Nazi arm band?
Adolph
At 3:35 PM,
Chris in MB said…
As long as people are not pressured to wear a hijab I see nothing wrong with it.
But the full coverage/large hijab does look very scary.
At 3:45 PM,
Tarek said…
Anonymous: drawing a parallel with the Nazi ideology is yet another sign of high intolerence.
carry on, I'm sure you'll find a way out!
:)
At 3:52 PM,
Olivia said…
I am surprised at the conservative shift in this modern age.
But not surprised when I consider the current political situations.
But then surprised again when I remember that in the absence of the Taliban, the Afghani women have shifted in the opposite direction to their sisters.
But...for how long?
At 3:57 PM,
mina said…
i think it's nice to wear it, sometimes girls are very cute with.
At 4:00 PM,
Anonymous said…
Tarek...you drew the parallel not me, but you proved the point..it not intolerant to call a Nazi a Nazi.
At 4:29 PM,
Crazy Girl said…
What religous cat! he he
At 4:52 PM,
Egyptian Bet said…
Tarek: Yes when the society sees something as "right" like wearing the scarf then they harm me as an individual, they're free to wear it as individuals and I'm free to fight their way of thinking, which looks at girls as "objects" that should be covered. So yes they're harmful
At 5:01 PM,
arwen said…
I'm glad that your cat has been so willing and able to adjust to the cultural differences in the home... my dogs are actively rejecting the sombreros that I put on them... :)
At 5:21 PM,
Tarek said…
@ Egyptian Bet: I don't think these women are forcing anything upon you as an individual. Did they knock on your door and tell you to cover your hear?? you're creating your own stress I notice.
It's funny to see this urge to impose a model of a perfect society whereby we would all look all the same, all wearing jeans, all eating crisps and all watching friends!
The world is diverse. There are 6 billion beings and hundreds of religions. No one is entitled to make fun of anyone else on the basis of their religious or cultural beliefs. Basic human rights principle.
At 5:24 PM,
Anonymous said…
Leilouta,I'm reporting you to the authorities for forcibly converting your cat to Islam! LOL!
Personally,I cringe when I see a woman wearing the full hijab but will defend their right to do so,even here in the US.My hope is that someday,strict Islamic countries will allow women NOT to wear them,should they so choose.
At 5:39 PM,
Anonymous said…
Tarek,
Are we allowed to judge these cultural beliefs?
At 5:42 PM,
Tarek said…
Anonymous:
Are you really,really looking for an answer to this question????
At 5:49 PM,
Anonymous said…
I know the answer, you seem to be having trouble with it.
At 5:59 PM,
Tarek said…
Anonymous:
yes, you're just too good!! I feel challenged reading your deep and insightful thoughts
At 6:40 PM,
Anonymous said…
oh loool!:) God, this is wonderful. Leilouta, you're terrific!:) (ahem, and I'm sure yr husband is too).
I'm becoming a regular reader now. Even when you talk about serious things, you do it in a way that brightens a day:) This post is too lovely, (+ nice choice of camilla pics).
Anon.
At 6:41 PM,
Hannibal said…
@ Anonymouth : "Tarek,
Are we allowed to judge these cultural beliefs?"
You are mixing things anonymouth, Do you think being a KKK, a cultural belief? I am sorry that's cultural terrorism and racism and history shows that this bunch of fanatics has done a lot of harm to society! By the way, I guess you need some free lectures on the true nature of Islam and Muslims.
@Tarek : klemik ma3elli me yefhimiksh khsara!
@ Leilouta: you just made my day with these pics!. Will you force your cat to do Ramadhan?:P ;)
At 6:58 PM,
Seneferu said…
Nice post:-)
I'm sorry, your cat is still an infidel. I can see his head. You must shave him (an inverse mohawk). Let his whiskers be.
At 7:03 PM,
keda said…
fabulous. but scary. but funny. but not. my rather large but cuddly fat boy (cat) would be thrilled to be seen out with such a pom pommed she cat....
At 7:16 PM,
Seneferu said…
Tarek, I personally feel sorry for them and can't help but see them as veils on their minds, veiling their individuality as persons. They are free spirits in their previous lives, but they lack the education to stand firm against the current societal pressures that teach them that their unveiled selves are whores. I could pick a less harsh term than this, but really this is what it comes down to.
At 7:29 PM,
Anonymous said…
Hannibal,
The KKK was founded on white supremacist 'beliefs'. This 'belief' system was part of the 'culture' of the antebellum and postbellum southern states. They were not trying to impose their culture on African Americans, but preserve their own culture at the expense of them. They used terror as a tactic. You are right, they are/were fanatics and racist. The point is when you see their outfit it is not intolerant to call them racist and/or fanatics. It is OK to 'judge' them for what they are. This is not about Islam per se, it is about the tenets of multi-culturalism. Tarek would say that you are not allowed to judge/ridicule them based on their clothes because they are one group among the 6 billion people on our planet and you would violate their basic human rights by doing so. It isnt that simple.
At 7:50 PM,
Anonymous said…
Leilouta,
My apologies for going OT with my 'challenging' and 'deep' thoughts. Sometimes a funny picture is just a funny picture and your post is very funny.
At 7:51 PM,
gatorbait said…
Well, if it is choice, true choice, then more power to them. If however , it is bowing to the pressures of Jacobin thugs hiding behind Islam, then, no ,I think it is awful .
Simple as that.
At 8:25 PM,
Leilouta said…
Globle Careine,
Thanks for the advice, I added Camilla, and it is one of my favorites.
I didn’t forget about many other actresses like Abir El Sharkoui,Shahira etc…I just had a hard time finding all those pictures. Either I found the before or the after, but not both, so I worked out with whatever was available.
Tarek...Tarek...Tarek...you just need to see the humor in things sometimes.
You take things a little too seriously.
Who said it was their decision btw? I know for sure that some of the famous people who start wearing the Hijab do it after getting paid a lot of money to do so. I’m sure some of these TV people are told to by their producers.
I don't see anything on my post that is highly disgraceful. I know a few people who wear the hijab and they happen to be extremely nice and good people. Many members of my own family wear the Islamic clothes. I never asked them why they wear it though.
Mina,
As a fashion statement I agree that it could be cute. Is that bad??
To all the comments about the cat,
No I didn’t try to convert him yet to Islam.
It doesn’t want to follow anything . I had a hard time trying to take the picture of it with the hijab, you have no idea. He bit me and then ran away… I had to starve her for a few hours and then offer her her favorite food. Only then did she let me put the fabric on her for those few seconds.
At 8:33 PM,
Tarek said…
Seneferu:
When I hear Ben Ganna presenting the news the last thing I see is her veil. I rather see a bright, eloquent and articulate journalist. So, I do not feel sorry for her, I feel impressed. If she were oppressed, or had no confidence in herself and her beliefs, she would have left her job.
Benazir Bhutto ruled her country with a scarf on her head. No one saw the headscarf, everyone saw the politician.
I am not making a case for the veil. I am saying that it is ridiculous to make fun of the way people dress however this dress looks like. It is also unacceptable to assume that because a woman is veiled she must be sad and oppressed.
In any case, in my relationships with people I tend to focus on the intellectual capacities of the individual, and his/her contribution to society, rather than their dress code. Probably this is why I am lucky to have very close friends across all religions and countries.
At 8:48 PM,
Tarek said…
Leiltouta,
I do see the humour in things when they do not touch on culturally sensitive problems. And this post raises a highly sensitive issue, so I did not see the humour part at the outset.
Besides, I always talk and argue.. I must have a talk-and-argue gene hidden somewhere.. :)
I hope I didn't sound unpleasant in my comments.
At 8:56 PM,
Leilouta said…
Don't get me wrong. I do enjoy your comments. I just like to poke fun at some of these culture sensitive problems.It is better than going out and burning things down.
At 9:28 PM,
Chic Mommy said…
LOL at Wacko Jacko and the Taliban girls gone wild. I personally don't believe in Hijab. I think it makes people stare at you more, and the whole point is to deflect unwanted attention.
At 10:08 PM,
Elaine said…
LOL!! You crack me up.
Your cat looks especially gorgeous in one! hehe!
At 10:22 PM,
Steven said…
"My hope is that someday,strict Islamic countries will allow women NOT to wear them,should they so choose."
Things do not just happen, hope is not enough and is quite hollow. If people are to have the choice, it takes people on the outside to beable to free them from this opression. I also support people wearing the Hajab out of choice, but not if it is simply out of choice to keep the oppressors quiet. I assume that it becomes quite natural over there though, like second nature. They are braught up on Hajab and that becomes part of their identity.
At 10:24 PM,
Steven said…
Who has the sexiest Hajab?!
I vote for the Taliban Girls!!
At 10:33 PM,
Crazy Girl said…
The whole problem I have with the hijab (btw my twin sister wears it) is that the point behind it is stupid. Yes some women wear it cause they want to, bad the problem is that women are told to wear it to get respect from men. We are taught that in islam a womens goal is to make sure she does not attract a man. To me that makes me feel like men are animials and we are creatures that must protect ourselves from men. If we provoke the animal in anyway than we are to blame. I find this unfair. God gave us brains. We all need to learn to respect one another, the good the bad and the evil! We have a right to laugh and make fun of whatever we please.
I'm kind of rambling here but I just don't see why god created us to hide our hair and to hide from men? a women should not live her life thinking that Allah created her a just a sexual being that needs to stop making men lust.
girly out
At 12:58 AM,
jkirlin said…
YOU are a treasure.
At 1:52 AM,
Virenda said…
I LOVE your blog, it is ALWAYS funny and cute!
ROFL...
Your cat is HOT!
At 4:51 AM,
Marsupilami's lair said…
I've got the feeling that when a woman wears the veil she's not human anymore.
I think the veil is oppressive and separating men from women or trating women like objects and men like animals is tantamount to imposing a totalitarian model.
At 6:18 AM,
Lebanon forever said…
"I wonder why the British have no issue with the scarf and the sikh turban!!"
Probably because the Sikhs don't blow the metro.
At 6:34 AM,
Anonymous said…
I find it interesting that even dicussing the veil is considered sensitive.
And I find it equally interesting that this opinion comes from a man.
XX
At 6:41 AM,
Tarek said…
Lebanon forever:
The British do not have any problem with any religion. The lifestyle in this country is such as everyone from every faith is more than welcome. Many policewomen wear the veil, and many policemen wear the turban. A society that accepts this as a matter of everyday life must have reached the ultimate levels of tolerence and civilisation. And this is, in effect, a country with a huge civilisational background.
No wonder then if the British got over the terrorist attacks on their country from the day following the incident and were intelligent and wise enough not to make silly shortcuts and stereotype the muslim faith accordingly.
Looking at a comment such as the one you provided, I feel immensely happy to live in this country and not somewhere where I would have to misfortune to come across people like you.
Humm.. a couple of additional thoughts:
(1) I am sure you are not Lebanese
(2) Just for future reference, the "metro" is not a "metro" in this country. It is called the "underground" or the "tube".
At 7:59 AM,
jack said…
Thank you thank you thank you ... seeing your naked CAT I was starting to have evil thoughts and loose my religion.
I'm all better now!
At 8:05 AM,
GC said…
Leilouta,
I just remembered. I have a much better photograph with our cat while she was veiled. She was experimenting with the idea last year, but it didn't really suit her lifestyle so she's now back to her old "natural" dress code. Check it out:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/63205605@N00/sets/72057594090884243/
At 9:29 AM,
forsoothsayer said…
actually i've totally seen veiled barbie being sold.
as to the veil, i am sure very few women really really WANT to wear it, for the sole purpose of obeying their religious teachings. it is usually more that living in the middle east, there is so much objectification and sexual harrassment that even i sometimes wish i had an excuse to swathe myself. plus, there is a lot of social and familial pressure on "good" girls to get veiled. that is what society needs to work on, i guess.
it's really to freaking hot over there for the veil to be anything other than the most sincere choice.
At 10:07 AM,
Anonymous said…
lol, Lebanon forever:)!
Tarek, u're right, "Lebanon forever" is obviously completely wrong plus no way could any Lebanese say that, right?
Anon.
At 11:04 AM,
Roba said…
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!
Man, that's an awesome post :)
At 11:42 AM,
lowandslow said…
"tarek: No one is entitled to make fun of anyone else on the basis of their religious or cultural beliefs." I'm not? Why can't I?
I think Scientologists are nuts. Mormons are pretty far out there also, they think G*d lives on a planet near the star Kaloob, that's pretty funny.
See?
At 12:43 PM,
ArmyArtilleryWife said…
I have friends who cover their hair in the U.S. and I do not think it is oppressive.
They wear it because it is traditional and because it is a choice they freely made.
When I see a woman wearing the hijab, I do not necessarily think she is oppressed.
The point is more that all of a sudden, women (many of whom are in entertainment) who did not wear it before are all of a sudden turning up dressing much more modestly and wearing the veil.
Did they all come to the sudden realization that this is what they want?
Are they following a "fad" revival? ...which would be superficial but relatively harmless.
Or are they feeling pressure from extremist groups that are rising in power?
It is impossible for us to really know, regardless of how "educated" they are. The fact that many are entertainers makes me think that there is something larger than individual choice at work here.
It is possible they all just woke up one day and decided that they wanted this...but I just have my doubts.
At 2:19 PM,
Anonymous said…
Tarek said "2) Just for future reference, the "metro" is not a "metro" in this country. It is called the "underground" or the "tube"."
Thanks Tarek, we know it is not an elevator!
At 2:21 PM,
Anonymous said…
forsoothsayer,are there really veiled barbies on the market in some places? I'm guessing she's being forced to wear it against her will,as we all know barbie is a glamorous,worldly party girl!
At 2:41 PM,
Tarek said…
Anonymous:
Tarek said: it's called "a lift".
At 2:48 PM,
lil fishy said…
im bored and i felt like commenting :D (i should be studying, hehehe).
i cover my hair and it was completely my choice and its something im proud of. but thats not to say that everyone wears the scarf willingly or for religious reasons. many ppl wear it becuz theyred forced or just for tradition/culture but not bcuz they truly believe in it. ok i should get my butt back to my work.
anyone wanna write my research paper:D?
At 3:07 PM,
Leilouta said…
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At 3:20 PM,
Leilouta said…
Yes there are veiled dolls on the market.
At 4:29 PM,
naan said…
leilouta, I dont see the point of your post, and it wasnt necessary to compare those ladies who decided to wear the Hijab with MJ, camila and a cat!! for a simple rule we learnt in 4th grade and that is you cant compare oranges to apples.
Forsoothsayer, I have to disagree with you, maybe this is the case in your surrounding but you cant generalize
I wore the veil when I was 26 and it was entirly my decision. I feel honored and so satisfied that I did, I did it because Allah "God" told us as Muslim women to do so;
I agree though that some wear it for social purposes and becasue its the norm in their society and others are enforced to do so; unfortunately these women poorly represent Muslim women
At 5:17 PM,
Anonymous said…
I think we should pay attention to Tarek's comments. Think about the sari, the sikh's turban and so on and so forth. Good ideas to ponder.
At 5:19 PM,
Hedi said…
The earlier message was from me, Hedi
At 5:35 PM,
Gattuso said…
iyah je reviens àmes bonnes habitudes :) ça m'a manqué ton humour
At 5:42 PM,
Anonymous said…
Nothing should be held as immune from humor except pain and suffering. When politicians and religons start to take themselves too seriously the whole world suffers. Lighten up.
At 5:43 PM,
Leilouta said…
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At 5:48 PM,
Leilouta said…
Hedi,
Yes those are good points. Here is another. The Indian wives used to throw themselves on their husband's funeral pyres.
At 6:02 PM,
Husam said…
naano said "I did it because Allah "God" told us as Muslim women to do so"
naano, just to be accurate in what we say, can you tell me exactly where did God told you in the holly Quran to do the certain act of covering your hair? Just to be sure for not saying in the name of God what he didnt say. Thanks.
At 8:07 PM,
Lolo said…
I could see how wearing one of those exercise outfits would make me feel so much more attractive. I could wear one swimming too and spare myself the agony of shopping for a bathing suit.
OMG! I'm so going to convert now
At 8:25 PM,
Alphaprimer said…
Without any disrespect to the Holy Quran or to anyone on this blog, from my (admittedly) limited knowledge on what it says, but from a general sense, I'm offering a general consensus on the issue. I don't see the Holy Quran, saying what God says(His words), it exclaims ways on how to honor God, ways to pray to him and what he would WANT us to do. Thats culture, social norms, values, rituals, and traditions.
The Hijab is reinforced by culture, because the Hijab denies its own humanity, it denies what makes an individual who they are, it constructs a barrier between people, and tells them who they should be and not to accept themselves and in that sense I don't believe for one second that It could be anything except a force that pushes a person or a people farther from God.
Why do people have to honor God in one way? Pray in one manner, and conform to rituals? My friends, this isn't the voice of God or the prophet speaking, it's the collective voices of the community, telling you how you must do certain things and act in certain ways to be considered a Muslim or a Christian or Jew.
Because truthfully, God is beyond all of that.
At 8:45 PM,
Egyptian Bet said…
Tarek:
I never said they were forced to wear it, they could've been forced because of peer pressure or other reasons, but even if they chose to wear it I'm free to critisize wearing a scarf and the reasons behind it and why this part of the world still wears it. Those reasons are completely anti-women.
At 10:05 PM,
Nightlegend said…
Very funny ,especially the cat part!
At 2:59 AM,
Lehihamra said…
Tarek But I find it highly disgraceful to associate these women's (and any woman's) pictures with satiric depictions of Barbie, Michael Jackson, a cat, and a loo entrance. After all, did they harm anyone by wearing a scarf?
Disgraceful? Funny, more like. What is wrong with poking fun at those who spend their youth using their looks in entertainment and then become all holier-than-thou once the parts stop coming and they are no longer on the screen?
Tarek, you are quite funny, too. Is your beard quivering as you type the words 'I find it disgraceful'? How about using words like 'unconscionable', 'knavish', 'recrementitious', 'untempered', 'opprobrious', 'ignominious', 'reprehensible', 'egregious', 'heinous', 'iniquitous', 'nefarious', 'despicable', 'dastardly', 'flagitious', 'loathsome' or 'abominable'. Like 'disgraceful' they have the advantage of being able to simultaneously convey your sense of outrage while unintentionally causing great mirth to the reader.
Try a few. You could even write a few letters to the local newspaper (in green ink, of course) signed 'Outraged of Wolvercott', 'Livid of Livermore' or even 'Catatonic of Cowley.' Nothing like a good outraged rant to cause a chuckle.
At 4:32 AM,
Summer said…
Leilouta,
I thought I would wait a little bit for the furvor to simmer down before I commented. I didn't want to get lost in the fray.
When I saw this post, all I saw was your usual bit of humor. From serious to goofy. That's all I tried to read into this one.
Deep thoughts about this will be kept hidden under my invisable hijab.
At 9:19 AM,
opinionatedinjerzee said…
did you notice.. that it's after they pass their prime they start wearing the hijab... first they look all good, great wieght then when they start wrinkling up and looking like a fatass they start wearing the hijab.. how convenient!! Biatches!
At 12:16 PM,
Chris in MB said…
opinionatedinjerzee,
LOL, I was thinking the same but dare not say it!!
glad to see your blunt & living up to your name, LOL
At 3:17 PM,
Steven said…
Hey Tarik. :)
That is the best thing about our country at the moment, "strength in our diversity".
Nice post.
At 10:43 AM,
folan el folany said…
Very funny ,especially Public Toilets
At 11:13 AM,
Leilouta said…
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At 12:36 PM,
Olive Nigger said…
I came over here from Sandmonkey's page. You truly are a genius :D
Tarek, the problem does not lie with the people who say that the hijab is outddated, it lies with the people who believe that the women that do not wear it are of questionable virtue/sluts out to destroy muslim civilisation.
You get out of the hijab what you put under it. A virtuous woman will be virtuous whatever she wears and a man-eater will be a man-eater even under the burkah.
Check out any textbook on dermatology you want. The sites most susceptible to skin cancer are the ones that get hit vertically by the rays of the sun=the top of the ears, the bridge of the nose and the lower lip. This is why head and face covers are part of the traditional costumes in places that get hit by the sun a lot.
At 10:46 AM,
a fan said…
Hopefully Camilla and Michael Jackson decide to adopt the hijab fulltime, in both cases an obvious improvement fashion-wise. Camilla doesn't have great hair, so he scarf solves that problem for her, and as for Michael, it would likely keep him from going totally bankrupt (those plastic surgery bills, ya know!)
At 5:59 PM,
~Daydreamer~ said…
Really funny :-) Nice blog you have here. Visit mine too if you have the time :)
At 9:52 PM,
Anonymous said…
They should wear what they wish, but the only time I really cringed was when I saw a girl completely covered up only the eyes, and in the US, Oh that was not a good sight!
At 11:14 AM,
Anonymous said…
hi my name is muhammad noori and iwant to say some reason that the hijab is a cover for the man and woman western culture belive taht human is a being that will not complted unless he or she make up his self in the islam culture hijab is cover that defence his or her body from the larcney wester people sells thier body to the people but we sells our body to the to the our god
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